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February 11th, 2020 at 11:24 am

Financial literacy is an ongoing process for me.

I use to consider myself a saver and a spender, I’ve gotten to the point where I am now more of a saver. I’ve always hated giving the government my money; however, I do understand that there are resources in that those funds could, well should, be used for. But to be hit with $200 less in my check, I am not happy. This really burns me. I’m not trying to make this post political by any means; however, those new tax laws are not beneficial to me, and I’m ticked off about it. Home interest deductions for some is no longer, and I’m one of them. Yes, I know pay the house off but I’m still ticked off. I can go through the list but won’t.

I’m still learning, so even though there isn’t a match with my employer, I’ll adjust my deductions to include 401(k) contributions, this should help, I think with my taxable income(reduction) vs transferring the money to the IRA.

I’m just annoyed, I feel like I work so hard and yet I’m still not educated enough. I want to scream, wages are at an all time low, though there’s jobs, and you’re taking my money.

Getting off my soapbox

10 Responses to “Annoyed ”

  1. AnotherReader Says:
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    Have you looked at your withholding to see if it is correct?

    The standard deduction was increased, and it may be more than your itemized deductions. You should do your taxes both ways to see whether taking the standard deduction is correct for your situation.

    Finally, are you accounting for taxes on the income from your second job? That should increase your withholding if you are only withholding from your primary job.

  2. creditcardfree Says:
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    Withholding tables did change a bit. So $200 per paycheck is how much per year? Do you know based on this last year how much total tax you will pay, looking at your tax return? If withholding that much more you will possibly end up with a big refund. However you are also earning more income so you should take that into account, so you aren't under withholding either. The lower the withholding allowance they more they take out of your check. The higher the number the less they take.

    We currently have 9 for allowances because we know that number leads to an amount similar to what we pay taking into account income that is pretax, credits for our girls with college expenses. My husband will get a raise this year and we will likely have to adjust back down so we don't have a large tax bill next year.

    Go to the
    Text is IRS website and Link is https://www.irs.gov/individuals/employees/tax-withholding
    IRS website to learn more AND use their withholding calculator. You can also go to a website called Paycheck City to plug in numbers to see how those withholding amounts change your paycheck.

  3. terri77 Says:
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    My dad (he works for H&R Block) just completed my taxes & I owe once again. I honestly don't see where there was a tax cut what with the deductions & credit that got taken away. The tax cut wasn't really for the middle class which is why DJT is again promising another middle class tax cut. I am already at 0 exemptions at both jobs, so I increased my withholding so I shouldn't owe anything next year - hopefully.

  4. Lots of Ideas Says:
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    Are you saving for retirement pre tax or post tax?

    There are mixed messages on which is ‘better’. This is my belief.

    Some people have a low income and/or a lot of deductions. For them, saving money post tax makes sense because they estimate that their income and taxes in retirement will be higher. So it is better to pay any tax due now, at the lower rate.

    If you have a higher income, and not a lot of retirement saved, it is smarter to pay pre tax. If you have income above the 22% level (@$39,500 for single after your deductions) each dollar you save for retirement saves you .22 in taxes.

    You take your total income, subtract $12,200 (standard deductions for single) and that is taxable income. You can also subtract HSA or FSA contributions if you have them. Without kids, it’s hard to get other deductions now.

    You pay 10 percent of the first $9700, and 12 percent of the money from 9701 to $39476. Everything over that is 22 percent to $84,200. If you are over that, 24 percent. (There are even higher brackets, but I think if you were there, you’d not have these worries!)

    So first 9700 = 970
    Next 22975 = 3573
    Total. = 4543

    Then subtract 39476 from your total adjusted income and multiply the result by 22 percent. That’s your tax liability on that money. Add it to the 4543. That’s your tax liability if you save for retirement post tax.

    Then figure out how much you want to put in pre tax retirement, subtract that from the amount you multiplied by 22 percent in the last step.
    Take the new, lower total and multiply that by 22 percent. The differences between the numbers is your pre tax savings. It will be $220 for every $1000 you save.

    Once you know your total tax due - which you will at this point, divide that by the number of paychecks you get. That is the amount you want deducted each check.

    Less and you will owe.
    More and you get a refund.
    Many People like refunds, but here’s why I don’t.
    - the government pays no interest on your money
    - money you owe costs you interest every month - use the ‘extra’ to pay down debt
    - if someone fraudulently files and gets your money, it is a mess that takes time to clean up
    - if there is ever any kind of garnishment, right or wrong, they can take your refund,

    There are reasons why, for some people, a mix of pre and post tax money is good in retirement. But I think for you, having more money to put in so it can grow is where you should be right now.

    Best wishes


  5. Creditcardfree Says:
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    Lots of Ideas, that was so kind of you to write that all out! And you are spot on! We will probably start shifting more to pre-tax retirement when my husband gets his raise.

  6. Lucky Robin Says:
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    I thought I read mortgage interest was up to $10K, but you couldn't deduct more than that? Are you itemizing? If you are, don't forget you can deduct your tithe since it is considered a charitable contribution. You didn't mention that in your post.

  7. Lucky Robin Says:
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    Never mind the above. I found this: Mortgage Interest Deduction
    In the past, you could deduct interest on a mortgage of up to $1 million ($500,000 for married taxpayers filing separately). This still applies for any loan originated on or before Dec. 16, 2017. But if you originated a new mortgage after that date, the new limit of $750,000 applies ($375,000 if married and filing separately). The Joint Committee on Taxation estimated 14.3 million tax payers would continue to claim the mortgage interest deduction in 2019, down from 16.5 million in 2018.

    So unless your house cost more than $750,000 you can still deduct. It didn't cost that much. Do you have state laws interfering or something.

  8. Lots of Ideas Says:
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    LR - the problem with the interest deduction now is that unless you have other large deductions too, the standard deduction is likely to be more than itemizing. And mortgage rates are so low now that interest is also ‘less’ (Good, but not for taxes!) But you are right that it makes sense to figure it both ways to see what is right for you individually.

  9. disneysteve Says:
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    Yeah we are among the millions paying more due to the Trump tax hikes. Nothing to do about it except to be sure to vote in November.

  10. GoodLiving Says:
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    everyone should vote in November!

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